It isn’t just men saying, “If I get caught cheating… There are plenty of women that feel the same way and they’re going to come back home to their guy and hopefully that guy knows, ‘Well, if you do still love me, then how are we going to work through this?’ We’re all around people that we know are cheating.”ĭaniel quickly picked up what Paul was putting down. This is a record, as Daniel was saying, that goes both ways. Even with this record, there’s a lot that isn’t being said about the record in all of these debates. Social media, they’re always going to share what gets people talking over what makes people feel better, kind of like, what is the underlying theme of what isn’t being said. “They’re just reacting to the negative energy, when there were so many other things that we’ve done that didn’t have that and the reaction was a fraction of that,” Nineteen85 added. Nineteen85 quickly agreed as well, noting that the record is plenty reflective of the times. So who is really toxic? Is it the people that are listening and talking about stuff? Or is it the artist? Because you guys seem to be feeding on this.” Have they hit the same mainstream level? No. We especially have made a lot of records that deal with that. “There’s a lot of artists who have made that kind of music. “If anyone is familiar with our music, we’ve done that,” Daniel told BOSSIP. In fact, they were quick to point out that critics who’ve expressed disdain over the less romantic road modern r&b has been taking may need to hold up a mirror before throwing darts at the artists making the music. What they weren’t as prepared for, was the response to be so much bigger. What I was hoping, in the beginning, was we’d put this record out and we’d have this great conversation about honesty and hypocrisy and double standards, everything would come about - which it is getting to now, but the first couple days were just triggered, shocked people destroying the song but then realizing they like it.” We filled rooms with randoms and played music and every time we’d put on that song we’d walk away and come back and the room was arguing - for hours. “That’s what we did know was going to happen,” Daniel told BOSSIP. What’s clear in our conversation with dvsn is they were prepared that the song, and people’s personal experiences with the topic, would get people talking. This can go a lot of different ways, but in these moments this is how people can feel, this is a real mentality that people carry.”ĭaley’s not lying about that, and that may be why some folks (cheating victims?) are so triggered. “You can also have this mentality and end up losing a lot more than just your girl, depending on the kind of person you have. “The reality of the situation is you can have this mentality and end up losing your girl,” Daniel told BOSSIP. To be fair, the song does seem a lot like the start of a fight, one that hasn’t yet begun to touch the repercussions that may follow. We’re not saying cheat and your girl has got to accept that – that is NOT what we’re saying.” I can’t give you that without giving you the crying part first. We have people saying ‘Give us crying in the rain R&B’. This is chapter one of the journey of this guy. It’s an honest song about the subject and about ego. “I’ve seen so many women in the past 48 hours just start taking it and making their selfie videos, doing the responses they think are appropriate because they’re saying it now. “This song isn’t even just for guys,” Daniel added. “It’s an honest anthem,” Daniel told BOSSIP. When asked whether the song is a toxic anthem, both Daniel and Nineteen85 immediately denied promoting cheating with the single. Content Director Janeé Bolden sat down with dvsn members Daniel Daley and producer Ninteteen85 (neé Paul Jefferies) to dive a little deeper into the group’s beliefs about the song, cheating, toxicity, and the high-value commentary that keeps finding its way into conversations about “If I Get Caught.”